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Woodstoker antwortete vor 13 Jahren

I have a DC32S boiler. Bat i have problem for the firing up. I have to musch smoke and low gas temperature for 1:30 hour. After for this time the boiler works good.
How is the best way to firing up my boiler and how load the woods?
Thank you



25 Antworten
Woodstoker antwortete vor 13 Jahren

Hi androutso,
how do you heat up the boiler can you see in the little movie I once made​​.
Look also at how well I put the wood into the boiler.This is important, the better the wood burns.

Action in the basement garage ………….Boiler heat up

To watch the film click on it easily.
After 90 seconds the wood gasification begins with closed doors and heating flap

Please be careful when using gas!

Not like that, that’s wrong.

Bart9995P antwortete vor 13 Jahren

Hi,

one way is that you use at first very small only 1 x 1 inches wood peaces.
Put 10 – 12 of these small wood sticks over the firing whole. take 1 – 3 sheat of a newspaper and make a ball out of the paper.
fire the paper. on the paper again small wood sticks and
than take wook peaces with 3 x 3 inches and at last the normal peaces.

and don’t close the door after the lightning . wait 10 – 15 minutes and look at the gas temperature.
is the temperature over 70°C then you can close the door.

I hope you understand me – my englisch is not the best ;-).

androutso antwortete vor 13 Jahren

Thank you for your help and the tips i will try.
How is good to load the woods in to my boiler after from firing up?
In plan 1 i put big woods on the hole of the ceramic.
In plan 2 i put the big woods Right and Left from the hole of the ceramic.
Very often after from the firing up created a space from the wood and from the hole like plane 3. This space make problem for the fire and i have smoke.

Bart9995P antwortete vor 13 Jahren

number 2 is a good idea.

Is the smoke white or grey?

If the smoke is white , it’s only water steam.
white smoke is no problem.
is the smoke grey / blue or black that is not ok.

Woodstoker antwortete vor 13 Jahren
Very often after from the firing up created a space from the wood and from the hole like plane 3. This space make problem for the fire and i have smoke.

Hi androutso,
this Problem with the Fire is called „hollow burning“.

This problem can not be avoided completely.
The wood pieces must be placed neatly into the boiler that it can not be wedged.
Smaller pieces of timber are best. If they are very large or angular you get most problems.The Atmos Company says maximum of 15 cm in diameter for a wood pice.
With round wood pieces are rarely problems. Acquire wood briquettes for heating if they are not too expensive.

Where do you live?

sebest antwortete vor 13 Jahren

boiler>40k
small fire
big wood
very very good

Woodstoker antwortete vor 13 Jahren
boiler>40k
small fire
big wood
very very good

For very large timber the gasification temperature in the filling chamber must be high.Otherwise there are dark smoke.
Or it is only at the wood charcoal burn.

sebest antwortete vor 13 Jahren

what is dark smoke?
gasifikation+charcoal the very very good

Woodstoker antwortete vor 13 Jahren
what is dark smoke?

Dark smoke is exaggerated, I mean if it burns badly stained the white smoke.

androutso antwortete vor 13 Jahren

For one more time thank you for the help. I never believe I would find very good support here.
I am from Greece and the cost for briquettes is to expensive. For 1000kg the cost is 350euro.
I will try many ways to placed the woods.
Many times i have gray smoke. What is this smoke?

Bart9995P antwortete vor 13 Jahren

grey smoke is noch 100% burned wood. the ratio wood to air is not optimal.

Woodstoker antwortete vor 13 Jahren
Many times i have gray smoke. What is this smoke?

Gray smoke comes from a problematic gasification and combustion.

The causes could be ….


  • wet wood
  • hollow burning
  • to lower exhaust gas temperature
  • bad chimney draft
  • dirty boiler (ash) = bad chimney draft
  • filling chamber filled poorly
  • Improperly adjusted secondary and primary air
  • Besides air (air duct leakage)

I am from Greece.

Greece I know very well, there I was certainly 15 times.Thessaloniki, Karpathos, Chios, Halkidiki, Lesvos, Samos, Limnos, Athos, Crete, etc.
It is a beautiful country with friendly hospitable people.

Where do you live in Greece? Maybe I know the area ?

androutso antwortete vor 13 Jahren
Woodstoker:

Greece I know very well, there I was certainly 15 times.Thessaloniki, Karpathos, Chios, Halkidiki, Lesvos, Samos, Limnos, Athos, Crete, etc.
It is a beautiful country with friendly hospitable people.

Where do you live in Greece? Maybe I know the area ?

If you were in Greece for 15 times. You will know some greeks.
Καλημερα φιλε μου(Good mornig my friend).
I am from city of Patras. Ιs the third largest city after from Thessaloniki.

I check what you told me.

wet wood=my woods are dry
hollow burning=some times hapend
to lower exhaust gas temperature= I have to high gas
temperature(250-280)
bad chimney draft= My chimney draft is ok 22pa-24pa
dirty boiler (ash) = My boiler was to mach dirty and i
clening and now the boiler works ok
filling chamber filled poorly
Improperly adjusted secondary and primary air
Besides air (air duct leakage)

Woodstoker antwortete vor 13 Jahren
I am from city of Patras. Ιs the third largest city after from Thessaloniki.

Yasu androutso,
Peloponnese the biggest island in greece I unfortunately have never entered.
Therefore, I not know Patras. I only know it from the map.

I check what you told me.

wet wood=my woods are dry

The hot Greek summer dry the wood in a season.
One has to be glad if it does not ignite from itself.

to lower exhaust gas temperature= I have to high gas
temperature(250-280)

The temperature is too high. One should at the DC 32S are below 250 ° C.
You should come to about 220 ° C, that would be for the DC 32S fine.When he goes over 250 ° C, you should clean it again.

bad chimney draft= My chimney draft is ok 22pa-24pa

That’s alright !

dirty boiler (ash) = My boiler was to mach dirty and i
clening and now the boiler works ok

Was that the reason?
The wood gasification boiler can burn cleaned well.
You will have to keep always good clean, especially the heat exchanger. Normally, the exhaust gas temperature must now be even lower.

Are you satisfied with the boiler ?
Do you now have a problem with the boiler or it is burning now as you wish?

androutso antwortete vor 13 Jahren
Are you satisfied with the boiler ?
Do you now have a problem with the boiler or it is burning now as you wish?

I am satisfied from my boiler for 70%.
Why?
I want the bestet settings for my boiler and i haven“t them.
My boiler is to big for my house. My house is only 94sq m. I have a DC32S with 1000L bufer. I want to controll beter the burning.
How can i do smaller power output for my boiler? With 15KW i will be OK.
How can i controll the gas temperature? I have a ST81zPID to controll the gas temperature bat isn’t works good. This controller works with gas temperature and boiler temperature together.
If the boiler have low tempature from the setting the controller give to high speed(100%-50%) and gas temperature(250-270)
If the boiler have the seting temperature the controller give to low speed(1%)and low gas temperature.
How i can controll only the gas temperature?

Woodstoker antwortete vor 13 Jahren

Hi androutso,
do you want a lower power for your boiler?
I know ST 81 z controller not as accurate, but we will reduce the power together .
Can you adjust the control itself? What are the parameters he has set at the moment? If you know then write it in here exactly.

Is your boiler like the picture?
The combustion chamber below, looks the same in your boiler?

Is that your controller?

Is your system as in the picture?
Only the fan is different because Atmos has of the induced draft fan.

androutso antwortete vor 13 Jahren
Woodstoker:
Hi androutso,
do you want a lower power for your boiler? Yes i want
I know ST 81 z controller not as accurate, but we will reduce the power together .
Can you adjust the control itself?Yes i can What are the parameters he has set at the moment? If you know then write it in here exactly. The only parameters i can set is only the boiler temperature. I set the boiler temperature at 85C. Is the max i can set.

Is your boiler like the picture? Yes it is
The combustion chamber below, looks the same in your boiler? Yes is the same

Is that your controller? Yes it is

Is your system as in the picture? My system is with bufer tank 1000L and laddomat 21 with 78C
Only the fan is different because Atmos has of the induced draft fan.

Woodstoker antwortete vor 13 Jahren

Do you have a manual in Greek for the control of the boiler?
Are you technically fit?
Do you know yourself at the boiler in a little with hydraulics and electrics?

androutso antwortete vor 13 Jahren
Woodstoker:
Do you have a manual in Greek for the control of the boiler? No i haven’t only english manual. Do you know Greek?

Are you technically fit? What are you mean?
Do you know yourself at the boiler in a little with hydraulics and electrics? I know everything about hydraulics and electrics for my boiler

Woodstoker antwortete vor 13 Jahren

Hi androutso !

Actually, 1000 liters of buffer too little for your system. If you want to run it as it is, without making changes to the buffer capacity of the boiler you must always fill only up to 2/3! (66% of wood filling maximum)

Otherwise you have too much excess energy, and the boiler is shut off quickly because your buffer is full.
Cause you can set in your control only the boiler temperature. You have to set them to maximum temperature. With a code could be changed in the control many parameters. This I want to avoid, for I know your system too little.
In Laddomat we need to add a cartridge to the boiler with its operating holding something below the maximum temperature of the ST 81.Otherwise, the boiler is always off during operation. The reason lies in the adjustable maximum temperature of 85 ° C at the electronics of the ST81. With a Laddomat cartridge of 78 ° C did you reached quickly. For this reason, you should be a cartridge fitted with a maximum of 72 ° C. Order that the boiler operating temperature is lowered somewhat.

Have you the possibility you get a Laddomat cartridge with 72 ° C in Patras?

By the way, did you get my PM?
(PN e-mail in the forum is itself.)

Hartmut antwortete vor 13 Jahren

Ich sag doch, woodstoker ist unverzichtbar

androutso antwortete vor 13 Jahren

For now i can’t change the buffer capacity. Is to high cost and i don’t have space for one more buffer.
I have got the Laddomat cartridge with 72 ° C . I will change the cartidge today and i will set the temperature at 85° C.
I will infrom you about results

Woodstoker antwortete vor 13 Jahren

The sectional drawing helps you for the repair.

androutso antwortete vor 13 Jahren

One million thanks is to low for your help.
I changed the piston 3 hours now and i firing up my boiler.
I do one more extra changed. I used your manual with code.
I change the max gas temperature it was at 260°C. I set at 230°C.
Now my boiler works at 75°C with max gas temperature at 230°C.
In 2 weeks they will send to my another controller with max boiler set at 90°C.

Woodstoker antwortete vor 13 Jahren

I’m glad that your system now works as it should!
Greek people for me were always special friends. It is an honor for me to be able to help you.

Is your new control? Because you get get a replacement for a higher temperature?
If you can take the temperature is higher with the new system is better.
You get more energy into the buffer. You can let the 72 ° C cartridge nevertheless in Laddomat. When the buffer is full then the content is then again through the boiler. The water is then hotter than the first run. It is then about 90 ° C.